# Upgrading to R4 1762 & lost my groups in the layouts

**URL:** https://vistaforum.chroma-q.com/t/upgrading-to-r4-1762-lost-my-groups-in-the-layouts/3516
**Category:** Vista 3 Releases
**Created:** [February 12, 2025, 6:16pm UTC](https://vistaforum.chroma-q.com/t/upgrading-to-r4-1762-lost-my-groups-in-the-layouts/3516 "2025-02-12T18:16:00Z")
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### Author: ![blantonlewis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f9ae1b/32.png) [@blantonlewis](https://vistaforum.chroma-q.com/u/blantonlewis)
#### Post date: [February 12, 2025, 6:16pm UTC](https://vistaforum.chroma-q.com/t/upgrading-to-r4-1762-lost-my-groups-in-the-layouts/3516/1 "2025-02-12T18:16:00Z")

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I upgraded to R4 but wasn’t able to bring over my show file, it kept crashing. Have tried to keep my show file very clean so it loads & have had no real probs up to now. Anyway, started with a new show file & then merged in layouts, fixtures, main cues, etc.

Main problem is that when I try to add groups to the layout, it only shows the “1-all” group. I can add fixtures…