# Position effect without base point

**URL:** <https://vistaforum.chroma-q.com/t/position-effect-without-base-point/857>\
**Category:** Vista 3 Releases\
**Created:** [May 22, 2019, 8:43am UTC](https://vistaforum.chroma-q.com/t/position-effect-without-base-point/857 "2019-05-22T08:43:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 3\
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**Author:** ![Mikkel.Bedsted](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ce7236/32.png) [@Mikkel.Bedsted](https://vistaforum.chroma-q.com/u/Mikkel.Bedsted)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 8:43am UTC](https://vistaforum.chroma-q.com/t/position-effect-without-base-point/857/1 "2019-05-22T08:43:18Z")

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Hi  
I Am working on live busking setup and I can figure out how position effects without base points works. Each time I try to make a position effect without a base point I check the little box “free”. Then the effect closed and nothing is stored.

Why?

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**Author:** ![Mikkel.Bedsted](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ce7236/32.png) [@Mikkel.Bedsted](https://vistaforum.chroma-q.com/u/Mikkel.Bedsted)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 11:49am UTC](https://vistaforum.chroma-q.com/t/position-effect-without-base-point/857/2 "2019-05-22T11:49:27Z")

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Solved 😉

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**Author:** ![Ithilome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8491ac/32.png) [@Ithilome](https://vistaforum.chroma-q.com/u/Ithilome)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2022, 9:18pm UTC](https://vistaforum.chroma-q.com/t/position-effect-without-base-point/857/3 "2022-06-11T21:18:59Z")

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How’d you solve this? I’ve a feeling that I’ve the same issue. This is my first time digging into FX on vista software, so I’ve a feeling it was a somewhat obvious solution…?